Do you prefer releases or single songs?

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December 14, 2011 at 12:49 pm #3001
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roboctopus

I’ve been pondering this. I’m working on a bunch of songs and I was pondering the benefit of holding pretty much everything back for a release versus releasing individual songs. On the one hand, you might steadily build chip cred by releasing good tunes at a regular interval (and no one may download your release if you don’t have chip cred). On the other hand, if you put out some fantastic release, it may stick with people more.

Thoughts? What do you guys prefer?

December 14, 2011 at 4:25 pm #3004
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idevourstatic

I like a couple of taster tracks – but generaly prefer realeases.

but i hear you about the steady stream of music – i think the key is balance.

December 14, 2011 at 4:26 pm #3005
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subterrestrial

Some people release singles or even eps and the digital format makes this more practical, but my preference is towards complete releases. I think it has more to do with individual preference. I usually start working on something with the intent of it being part of some type of album. Despite what some people say, the album is not dead and a well made, cohesive album will always be enjoyed by the listener. There’s nothing wrong with uploading completed tracks for promotional purposes though; Soundcloud, NoiChan, 8bc, etc…. A “promotional single” may spark interest in listeners downloading a longer release!

December 14, 2011 at 5:47 pm #3010
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vcmg

I prefer releases because I don’t like having single songs by themselves in my
music library. I don’t usually write songs with an album in mind, though. I just find it a lot harder for me to consciously come up with 5 or more songs that are similar enough to be together.

December 15, 2011 at 1:08 am #3017
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theghostservant

releases, easy. Context is such an important part of digesting an album. Listen to a radio single then listen to where it’s at on the LP. It can make a difference in how the song is perceived.
VCMG, I’m exactly the opposite. I can’t write unless I’m working towards a cohesive concept. Or, its all my CDO (not OCD) brain trying its hardest to make a string of pieces relate thematically. Pairing the music with poetry has something to do that, I”m sure.

December 15, 2011 at 3:50 am #3018
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polarbirds

That’s a real toughy. I think people have a lot less patience when it comes to albums, unless they are “die hard” fans (bit exaggerated statement, but you get the point). I think It’s very nice when you find an album that feels complete and follows a theme through out the entire album. I don’t want to buy an album, just to get that one “hit song” I’ve already heard and then the rest is not even comparable to that one song. It’s been a few rare occasions (atleast in my life) when I have found an album that I really appreciate as a whole.

I think It’s paradoxal though, cause I do like the concept and it’s very nice when I do find that polished gem of surprises.

Don’t get discouraged by my earlier harsh statements though. I’m no music-nazi by any means and I’m sure your album will be a delight.

I have also been thinking about relasing an album since “8bit God” asked me if I wanted to publish it under his netlabel. The thought is appealing but I don’t think anyone will bother to download it, haha. Or maybe someone will, I don’t know.

Sorry for my random ramblings but I think the subject is interesting :)

Cheers!

December 15, 2011 at 11:41 am #3022
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pixlcrushr

Releases for sure. I enjoy a release that flows together. I also just get tired of importing tracks one-by-one into a media library.

February 6, 2012 at 10:14 am #4049
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jazzmarazz

Releases. I just realized another reason why I hate 8bc and where the community has come. Each and every week (when the damn thing is working) people grasp on to the charts. “X-song got 30 likes!” Hoo-flippin-rah.

I download and or buy albums, not songs.

February 6, 2012 at 10:54 am #4051
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idevourstatic

@jazzmarazz , yes, that is one of the fundamental reasons why a chart/like system is flawed.

it simply perpetuates its self almost infinitly and X song ends up no1 for like 3 weeks and gems go unnoticed because of ignorance.

Its a shame.

February 6, 2012 at 12:20 pm #4054
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roboctopus

@idevourstatic I think the chart system is considered “broken” often because it supports visibly supports the Casual Listener. I charted a few times at 8bc, and I can tell you that some people just show up once a week and listen to the charts, click “like” and bug out.

I wouldn’t call it ignorance; I think you’re just seeing the tastes of your casual listener versus your hard core chip fan. And, naturally, the casual listener is going to reward catchier (and usually dancier) songs, as opposed to something perhaps more adventurous or difficult.

The hope would be that the hard core chip fans are still finding and appreciating those gems that are not on the “chart” (Which I’d like to think is the case–I know some of my favorite chiptunes were not on the charts. I love me some Doomsberry.)

That’s why I think if Freque decides to add page views or likes, that it’s only sortable by popularity by searching or ordering, and not charted by default. If you want to know what track was most popular last week, you can find that information, but it’s not given to you up-front.

That’s also why I think the artist-playlist idea is cool. People can check out “mixtapes” by chippers that interest them, which could be a good way for unnoticed gems to get more attention.

Okay, I’m going to stop rambling now.

February 6, 2012 at 12:49 pm #4055
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idevourstatic

haha @robox ^~ I remember being in that meeting at noichan towers = yes, I do agree that the playlist/diffrent chart layout would & will be imense.

what I mean by ignorance is that, despite of a songs catchynes, the fact it has “charted” seems to warrant it better than that of the lowly peons who work the machine from its bowels and greases its wheels with their blood.

I just think that chart system does more harm than good.

February 6, 2012 at 8:40 pm #4057
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Solarbear

BUT! Maybe we have a responsibility to the casual listener?

February 6, 2012 at 9:11 pm #4058
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vcmg

Well, but then we pander to the lowest common denominator, which is something that most people don’t want to do if they don’t have to.

February 7, 2012 at 10:46 am #4061
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roboctopus

@Solarbear –I suppose if your goal is to increase your audience and chipmusic listenership as a whole, then you might have a responsibility to the casual listener…

@vcmg –thorny issue. Just because something appeals to a casual listener doesn’t automatically make it the lowest common denominator. I do enjoy Electric Children and TreyFrey myself. There’s nothing really wrong with the listener who just shows up once in a while to check out what’s hottt. (haha, though it does irritate your hardcore listener who is puzzled by Doomsberry’s lack of popularity, etc.)

Or something.

March 4, 2012 at 7:20 am #4472
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sycamoredrive

I like that you’re all banding about the term casual listener, as if you’re all some sort of ‘next level’ chip appreciators. Time to get off that high horse, fellas! ;)

Back on topic, I only listen to releases. I have no interest in downloading 200 single songs rather than 20 albums.

March 4, 2012 at 7:38 am #4474
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idevourstatic

I like that you’re all banding about the term casual listener, as if you’re all some sort of ‘next level’ chip appreciators. Time to get off that high horse, fellas!

haha!

March 4, 2012 at 4:43 pm #4501
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Dire Hit

The chart’s helped people find some hidden gems too. I had never heard of pamtech until orange brea hit the charts.

April 1, 2012 at 10:08 pm #4922
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awesomeforce

for me it’s all about how you want it delivered to the audience. i like when bands/artists release a single track, but i won’t download it. i really only download full albums or EPs [kinda the OCD in me]. when i would download stuff off 8bc [RIP], i would make the album ’8bc downloads’ so i could find them all.

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